This stamp is mainly aimed towards Christianity, I don't know much about the other major religions
Now I'm not saying all Religions don't respect human rights, but the mass religions like Christianity. I'm not saying all Christians don't respect human rights, but you can't deny there are Christians out there who do want to deny people their basic human rights.
Basic human rights like marriage, being able to have a family and reproductive rights, just to name a few.
For a religion that's supposed to be about kindness and accepting people, there sure are a lot of followers who are first class assholes.
The main one that everyone's talking about over the western world is marriage. Should gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered people be allowed to marry and start a family? I know what the bible says about homosexuality, but I thought it was the New Testament that Christians followed, not the old one? Well, that's what some anti-choice nut job told me when I was debating abortion with her.
I'd like to know what the New Testament says about homosexuality, if someone would like to tell me?
And even if it did say something about homosexuality in the new book, didn't God say that we should not judge people? That judging was his job and playing god is a sin?
NOW! Reproductive rights. What did Jesus say about abortion and birth control, hm? Oh, that's right: Fuck all.
(I think this is the new testament, not sure!) Exodus 21:22 reads:
When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine.
So yeah: You kill a fetus, you get a fine.
Before you go quoting bullshit bible verses to me: [link]
So yeah: You have NO RIGHT to deny people their basic human rights just because a 2000 year old book says so. And if you do: You're a fucking moron.
And there is such thing as the separation of religion and the state. Don't like that? Move to Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms.
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" Matthew 22:21
Correct me if there are any mistakes.
Ancient religions were always tied to the place where people lived, because people relied on the will of their gods to survive. Remember, people didn't even know where rain came from, so they made sacrifices for their gods in order for rain to come so their crops would grow and they could feed their animals and themselves. Let's not look for any deeper meanings than that. In fact, the only deep meaning there is in the Bible is only found in the Book of Genesis (which was stolen from Sumerian legends).
There's nothing inherently wrong with homosexuality. In fact, it has been observed in thousands of species, from insects and all the way to human beings. There's nothing wrong with abortion either, especially if the baby has a defect. In nature, animals with defects don't survive very long. Only the best genes should be passed on; that's the law of nature. Besides, in some species, females sometimes EAT their cubs as soon as they are born.
Just my two cents. Sorry for the wall of text.
I've been assaulted many times by my outer family, mostly my grandma and aunts. They've forced me to church a few times, and once begged the pastor or whatever to "cleanse" and "repent" me. All because I'm bisexual and don't believe in religion. How can we know if there's a god if there's no evidence? Sorry, a book written a thousand years ago doesn't count. I asked them why they hate me, why they wish to clear away the "sins and filth": I've accumulated. They said "It's god's will." If that's what they think will convert me, frankly I want nothing to do with it. If that's your god's will, to RUIN people just for being who they are, it's time you get a slap to the face and a reality check. Sure, I may go to hell. I don't care. All I care about is that people will stop giving me shit. They've taken lives. A girl in my class committed suicide after getting dragged to her church and her parents begged, pleaded to their "god" to forgive THEM for their daughter's "defect" of homosexuality. If this is what people are doing, to their OWN DAUGHTERS AND SONS... I think this may be the end, eventually. Humans are going to destroy themselves. We've become monsters in a human's skin.
There are many other religions, which you should at least know, which are really more harmful for homosexuality or women's rights
And not only because they do not allow gay people to get married, in fact, in some religions they are pursued and MURDERED for no reason. Where are the human rights? And I'm sure it is worse that just the discrimination you are talking about (of course, I do NOT support discrimination of any kind!)
And same for women when they are not allowed to do the same as men do or even when they are sexually mutilated.
All those actions do not take place in Chistian countries or so.
However, I am not trying to defend Chistians even when I've studied in a Catholic school. I do not know how american Christians are, but as I see it, they seem really different from the rest of European Christians. I mean, catholicism is NOT against evolution or science, in fact, there are several 'priests' who have studied and helped the Scientific Community. So the extremist way some people in america have to follow the Bible is a little weird and, sometimes, proper of the XV century.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say
(as you claim) you would know that if he Failed to pay the Fine, He would be Executed.
Also, stop trying to tell me what my religion says just because you came across a couple verse's of the Bible that, out of context, you disagree with or find offensive.
Abortion--- that Humans begin life/existence at conception, and that Murder is a Sin/wrong.--- since current abortion laws don't acknowledge the first fact, the second applies until the abortion laws recognize this. Note: this doesn't mean Abortion can't happen under these conditions. It just acknowledges the seriousness of what happens. Note#2:all that shit about contraception being forbidden is all the Vatican's doing. I'm perfectly okay with as much contraception as you want. I only start caring when there is a human life at stake, not before.--Besides, the way I see it, abortion would stop being an issue when quick, safe, easily reversible, & cheap Sterilization type birth control is commonplace. Mainly because woman would then have little to no excuse for aborting a planned pregnancy. which would basically be every pregnancy save the one involving rape.(note: of course, the Original reason for Abortion would still apply-saving the mothers life-but I don't see a problem with that.)
Gay marriage---'give unto Caesar what is Caesar's due'-Sodomy- (ie:Gay Sex)-is an Abomination.-biblehub.com/1_corinthians/13-… / www.biblegateway.com/passage/?… 'greatest of these is Love'----> this means its complicated. The biggest beef though is the thought of an 'abomination' being on the same level as Regular marriage. also, one the main arguments used to 'promote' gay marriage is the problems with inheritance. which is not a problem with marriage itself, but the fact that our government tied the inheritance laws into the marriage laws. which in this day an age cause's all sort's of problems not even related to this issue.
Is in the old testament, if youre going to diss Christianity you should atleast do it right
What the fuck.
but it does. it matters alot.
if your going to try to diss something do it right or else you'll land on your face and look like an idiot.
Thank you very much for pointing it out, I am mentally handicapped. Not very much, just a little.
If you're going to be an ass, at least research your "insults" and the person you are being an ass to.
*cough* Westboro Baptist Church *cough*
I'M USING THIS
Jesus does teach not to judge, but government's have a duty to set laws and preserve order. The bible commands people to obey their government.
There is also separation of church and state in this country. The church does not make or set law in this country. People have a right to vote how they feel calling them fucking morons for that seems childish and mean to me.
As for the Separation of Church and State thing, it's definitely a fact that the constitution doesn't say that. But we do have a Wall of Separation saying that the church shouldn't involve establish, support, or otherwise involve itself in any religion. It was written by Thomas Jefferson (I'm not sure if he was a liberal).
Should I insult your intelligence by reminding you that no such phrase exists in the Constitution? In fact, the First Amendment makes no mention of “separation,” “church,” or “state,” in any order or combination. The First Amendment puts no limit on religion at all. Instead, it limits the governments ability to interfere in religion, and permanently codifies our right to the “free exercise thereof.”
When Thomas Jefferson used the notorious phrase “Separation of Church and State” in his letter to the Danbury Baptists, he was describing a one-sided wall where the corruption of the Government could not infiltrate and infect the operations of the Church. He only chose those particular words because he was speaking to Baptists. He thought it might resonate with that crowd, considering the founder of the Baptist Church in America, Roger Williams, had written 150 years earlier about the need for a “wall of separation between the garden of the Church and the wilderness of the World.”
So when the Supreme Court later used this letter to justify its legal opinion in Everson vs. Board of Education, it was really deciding case law based on part of a sentence written by a 17th century Baptist preacher.
Stellar work there, Your Honors.
Remember, the settlers were escaping a country that persecuted Catholics after King Henry VIII threw a hissy fit when the Pope wouldn’t change Canon Law to suit the king’s habit of divorcing and/or murdering his wives. The Crown was declared the “only supreme head of the Church in England,” and guys like Thomas More were summarily beheaded and chopped into pieces for refusing to recognize the king’s spiritual authority.
In other words, they were leaving a country where government had intruded on religion — not the other way around."
Are you countering what I said, which was this? "Not unless you live in a country or state that allows these things." Well here's a newsflash for you, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution: www.usconstitution.net/constno…. Those that are prohibiting those who want to marry someone, are going against the constitution. Pro-lifers trying to make a "no abortion law" a federal law are also going against the Constitution, because the federal government is not to get involved with people's lives in that level. www.suanews.com/constitution/g… I do agree with the forcing people to pay birth control, because making a church do something it doesn't want to do would break the Separation of State and Church. Catholic women can always pay for their own birth control. But if they can't afford it, then maybe they can ask a friend to purchase one for them.
But if you're talking about Christianity and its rules, then you should know that not everyone is going to follow that religion and no one should be forced to do so. I mean why should I, an atheist, be forced to do things I don't want to do or believe in? If that happened, our Founding Fathers would roll in their graves and facepalm. I have my own set of rules & morals and I want to follow them, not let other people rule my lives and body.
Sometimes ideals are good for the human race. It allows us to progress for the betterment of the human race. The Declaration of Independence may not be part of the constitution, but it is an ideology that helped America.
Also, I never said the Wall of Separation was in the constitution. But I personally believe that if the government shouldn't interfere with religion, then religion shouldn't interfere with the government, just to make things fair. I just reread my previous post and noticed that I accidentally wrote "church" and not "government". Sorry for the typo, my bad.
(cute avatar by the way.)
I live in Wisconsin, which recently allowed homosexuals to marry. So, I DO have the right to marry whoever I wish to marry.
No. If you wanted to marry a rock or a strip of Canadian bacon, you could not do that.
"I've seen you anywhere and you're rude and bigoted enough as it is.
Did you mean "everywhere" or "anyway", here? "Anywhere" doesn't form a relevant meaning.
I don't doubt that I'm sarcastic sometimes, as I might have been with you here. But there is a distinction between debating and being plain rude. As there is a difference between having different beliefs than you and being bigoted. I think it's funny how you got irritated at me for making "assumptions" and judgments about you, and not 2 posts later you are making enormous generalizations and assumptions about me. Well played, anime-luvr-girl12316. Well played.
The only people who are against the right to marry are the ones who want to dismember marriage outright. I am fully supportive of marriage, but as I also support its intrinsic definition. I could go into detail, but I'm sure it'd just translate into "blah blah blah bigot homophobic gay hating blah" to you. A shame people generalize like you do.
I am male, but I am a Texan, so at least you assumed one part correctly. And you act like being pro-family is a trait as desirable as a liking to cannibalism to the entirety of society. Oh, what ever shall I do? How will I ever find someone just as homophobic and bigoted as I am for a mate?