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Sure, I'll respect your Religion! If... by OurHandOfSorrow Sure, I'll respect your Religion! If... by OurHandOfSorrow
"I'll respect your Religion when your Religion respects basic human rights!"

This stamp is mainly aimed towards Christianity, I don't know much about the other major religions :P

Now I'm not saying all Religions don't respect human rights, but the mass religions like Christianity. I'm not saying all Christians don't respect human rights, but you can't deny there are Christians out there who do want to deny people their basic human rights.

Basic human rights like marriage, being able to have a family and reproductive rights, just to name a few.

For a religion that's supposed to be about kindness and accepting people, there sure are a lot of followers who are first class assholes.

The main one that everyone's talking about over the western world is marriage. Should gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered people be allowed to marry and start a family? I know what the bible says about homosexuality, but I thought it was the New Testament that Christians followed, not the old one? Well, that's what some anti-choice nut job told me when I was debating abortion with her.

I'd like to know what the New Testament says about homosexuality, if someone would like to tell me?

And even if it did say something about homosexuality in the new book, didn't God say that we should not judge people? That judging was his job and playing god is a sin?

NOW! Reproductive rights. What did Jesus say about abortion and birth control, hm? Oh, that's right: Fuck all.

(I think this is the new testament, not sure!) Exodus 21:22 reads:

When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine.

So yeah: You kill a fetus, you get a fine.

Before you go quoting bullshit bible verses to me: [link]

So yeah: You have NO RIGHT to deny people their basic human rights just because a 2000 year old book says so. And if you do: You're a fucking moron.

And there is such thing as the separation of religion and the state. Don't like that? Move to Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms.
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dalegribble3000 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
With religious laws in the Bible, only 1/6 of the ones are not relevant to Christian faith, and those are regarding animal sacrifices.
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DarkSideDuck Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
Separation of religion and the state?
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" Matthew 22:21

Correct me if there are any mistakes.
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StylishCat100 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, and the Exodus is in the Old Testament.
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StylishCat100 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The whole reason Christianity is against against abortion/homosexuality/etc., is the place where it evolved: the Middle East. The Middle East is, to this day, an arid place, so imagine how tough life would have been in ancient times. If you couldn't have kids, there was a problem, because the population was at risk of going extinct. In fact, the Bible specifically states that families that couldn't have children were considered damned by God. Plus, a strong family bond was needed for survival.

Ancient religions were always tied to the place where people lived, because people relied on the will of their gods to survive. Remember, people didn't even know where rain came from, so they made sacrifices for their gods in order for rain to come so their crops would grow and they could feed their animals and themselves. Let's not look for any deeper meanings than that. In fact, the only deep meaning there is in the Bible is only found in the Book of Genesis (which was stolen from Sumerian legends).

There's nothing inherently wrong with homosexuality. In fact, it has been observed in thousands of species, from insects and all the way to human beings. There's nothing wrong with abortion either, especially if the baby has a defect. In nature, animals with defects don't survive very long. Only the best genes should be passed on; that's the law of nature. Besides, in some species, females sometimes EAT their cubs as soon as they are born.

Just my two cents. Sorry for the wall of text.
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dalegribble3000 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
But still, it's interesting that many ancient religions have variations of the Noah's Ark story.
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Basically what you are saying is that you won't respect PEOPLE who won't respect human rights. Christianity, Biblicaly focused, is not actually anti human rights ... just the people who take things out of context and cherry pick
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nekochibiclarechan Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So true. I've met plenty of nice Christians, like my mother. She is open to opinions and doesn't buy "the world was created in six days" crap. But then there's everyone else. 

I've been assaulted many times by my outer family, mostly my grandma and aunts. They've forced me to church a few times, and once begged the pastor or whatever to "cleanse" and "repent" me. All because I'm bisexual and don't believe in religion. How can we know if there's a god if there's no evidence? Sorry, a book written a thousand years ago doesn't count. I asked them why they hate me, why they wish to clear away the "sins and filth": I've accumulated. They said "It's god's will." If that's what they think will convert me, frankly I want nothing to do with it. If that's your god's will, to RUIN people just for being who they are, it's time you get a slap to the face and a reality check. Sure, I may go to hell. I don't care. All I care about is that people will stop giving me shit. They've taken lives. A girl in my class committed suicide after getting dragged to her church and her parents begged, pleaded to their "god" to forgive THEM for their daughter's "defect" of homosexuality. If this is what people are doing, to their OWN DAUGHTERS AND SONS... I think this may be the end, eventually. Humans are going to destroy themselves. We've become monsters in a human's skin.
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Fluffy-Adoptables101 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  New member Hobbyist
This is exactly why I'm not big with religion. My bff is a pasters daughter and she had faith problems. We both get confused from the way religion works. And if there really is a God, how would we know? For heaven sakes, God has killed more people then the DEVIL! The so called evil Devil gave us knowledge and gave us the ability to learn and grow. When you love someone you care for them and will help them when they need you, I've needed God so many times in my life and NOTHING happened. You don't cause suffering for someone cause you love them.  And I hate abortion because your just murdering a baby.  Quoted from :icontigerjump71: "There's the 'I believe in God' Christian, and then there's the 'Pokemon is the devil and dinosaurs never existed' Christian." The Christians that are like the last part of his Tigerjump's statement are the ones who don't respects basic human rights! Also quoted from Corvus-the-Snark  "Indeed, it is a proven fact that most "Christians" today haven't actually read the Bible and just believe what they want. God have mercy of their souls..." I'm not a person to usually get involved in these fights over religion or slenderman and other stuff like that but when people don't respect my rights and others rights, it bothers me. And when something bothers me I get involved. And I don't think that just because a few religions in the USA don't allow homosexuality means we ALL have to be straight. This problem also happens onl apps like iFunny, people are getting banned for homosexuality and fandoms and speaking up. Emo's and depressed people are told horribal things and get banned cause they are "Offensive" From my point of few, Society and religion destroy humanity. Yeah, I see humans, but I don't see humanity. Some churches that I've been too myself, won't allow homosexual people in, causal clothing, people that 'sinned' by messing up earlier in life, such as smoking and doing drugs. Society destroys people until they can't go on anymore and then turn around after their dead and say, "OMG why'd s/he kill herself?! S/he were so pretty and talented. They had so much to live for!" Society destroyed adventure to where the only adventure left is to destroy society.
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DarkFlame11 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
Sorry to say that Christians are not the biggest Human Rights breakers :|
There are many other religions, which you should at least know, which are really more harmful for homosexuality or women's rights :shrug:
And not only because they do not allow gay people to get married, in fact, in some religions they are pursued and MURDERED for no reason. Where are the human rights? And I'm sure it is worse that just the discrimination you are talking about (of course, I do NOT support discrimination of any kind!)
And same for women when they are not allowed to do the same as men do or even when they are sexually mutilated.
All those actions do not take place in Chistian countries or so.

However, I am not trying to defend Chistians even when I've studied in a Catholic school. I do not know how american Christians are, but as I see it, they seem really different from the rest of European Christians. I mean, catholicism is NOT against evolution or science, in fact, there are several 'priests' who have studied and helped the Scientific Community. So the extremist way some people in america have to follow the Bible is a little weird and, sometimes, proper of the XV century.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say :)
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014
"So yeah: You kill a fetus, you get a fine."--- Which if you're as big an 'expert' on what the Bible says
(as you claim) you would know that if he Failed to pay the Fine, He would be Executed.

Also, stop trying to tell me what my religion says just because you came across a couple verse's of the Bible that, out of context, you disagree with or find offensive.

Abortion--- that Humans begin life/existence at conception, and that Murder is a Sin/wrong.--- since current abortion laws don't acknowledge the first fact, the second applies until the abortion laws recognize this. Note: this doesn't mean Abortion can't happen under these conditions. It just acknowledges the seriousness of what happens. Note#2:all that shit about contraception being forbidden is all the Vatican's doing. I'm perfectly okay with as much contraception as you want. I only start caring when there is a human life at stake, not before.--Besides, the way I see it, abortion would stop being an issue when quick, safe, easily reversible, & cheap Sterilization type birth control is commonplace. Mainly because woman would then have little to no excuse for aborting a planned pregnancy. which would basically be every pregnancy save the one involving rape.(note: of course, the Original reason for Abortion would still apply-saving the mothers life-but I don't see a problem with that.)

Gay marriage---'give unto Caesar what is Caesar's due'-Sodomy- (ie:Gay Sex)-is an Abomination.-biblehub.com/1_corinthians/13-… / www.biblegateway.com/passage/?… 'greatest of these is Love'----> this means its complicated. The biggest beef though is the thought of an 'abomination' being on the same level as Regular marriage. also, one the main arguments used to 'promote' gay marriage is the problems with inheritance. which is not a problem with marriage itself, but the fact that our government tied the inheritance laws into the marriage laws. which in this day an age cause's all sort's of problems not even related to this issue.

timing out... :peace:
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