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Pro Life? by OurHandOfSorrow Pro Life? by OurHandOfSorrow
Are you Pro-Life? Are you against abortion in all circumstances? Do you believe killing an innocent life is wrong? Do you believe all life is precious?

And most important of all: Are you Vegan?

If not: You're a majour fucking hypocrite and don't deserve to call yourself "Pro-Life"
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Madam--Kitty Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah I h8 how these pro-lifers try telling women what they can and can't do w/ their body as they shove a damn hot dog down their throat. (gat pun intended)
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014
What is vegan?
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Madam--Kitty Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
when u don't eat meat, eggs, milk and don't wear leather
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015
Oh, i see. Thanks
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Madam--Kitty Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
np
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Vegan war.
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Okay... What does it have to do with it?
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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Edited Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
And even then animals get killed during the crop farming process via machines, pesticides, and all that, which further proves that the term "pro life" is a humongous joke within itself. Because to make society work, something is going to get killed. Whether it be a plant, animal, bird, insect, or even a fucking fetus. The term pro life is a JOKE and completely illogical.

Pro life is just a pretty way of saying "women shouldn't have the right to choose because the fetus is more important "

And also, most people who are "pro life" also seem to be for the death penalty. Hmmmm
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Kfcnyancat Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2014
Wow! A Petafag trying to say I shouldn't enjoy delicious KFC because slaughtering the inferior beings that God put on this earth for humans to do what they want with because I don't believe in killing humans! I've never seen one of THOSE before!
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Animals don't have souls. People do. Argument invalid.
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Sia-the-Mawile Featured By Owner Edited Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Animals DO feel pain.  Most animals ARE sentient.
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
They feel pain but they dont have souls or spirits.  Argument still invalid
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PhoenixOfWildfires Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, if you are vegan, plants will die because you eat them. The only way for you to be truly pro-life is not eating, and by extent, not existing.
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ShadeWolfBuizel Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
My mom hates abortion, yet she eats eggs ^^;
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sethness Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Our diet really does have a huge impact on our morality.
We wouldn't dream of killing a (human) neighbor, but our degree of disgust at killing is laid out in concentric rings around ourselves: family, friends, nation, species, pet species, mammals, animal kingdom, life in general.

I wonder if a hundred years from now we'll have created a way that we can live without taking any life....like most plants do and some scavenger animals can.
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Kapuchino157 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013   Traditional Artist
"Humans>other animals"
the way I've heard of it

this is not my personal belief
my personal belief is that, as omnivores, we have the right to kill and eat other life forms, just as they have the right to do it to each other and us
that does not mean we should disrepect them
they deserve all the respect in the world. ALL OF IT
I'm fairly certain lions respect the zebras they eat o3o

But I believe I got off track and missed the point of the stamp.

Pro-lifers, as any other sentient being with working brain cells, are hypocrites. Just as I am. Just as you are. Just as everyone else is.
Bringing animals other than humans in to this isn't going to make them see their hypocrisity any better than they already do (or is it 'don't'?)

Noone deserves to call themselves a pro-lifer, as far as I'm concerned. Because once in their life, just Once, every single living creature has killed another.

Fact.
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes, you are missing the point on the stamp entirely. 

This stamp is about the abortion debate, not about the meat eating and natural cycle debate. All I'm trying to say is that in order to call yourself "pro-life", that would mean all life, not just that of a fetus.
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Kapuchino157 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013   Traditional Artist
Exactly.
Did you just stop reading my comment on the "But I believe I got off track and missed the point of the stamp." part? |D

"Noone deserves to call themselves a pro-lifer, as far as I'm concerned. Because once in their life, just Once, every single living creature has killed another." :meow:
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Ah sorry, it's been a long day xD
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Kapuchino157 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013   Traditional Artist
Ahh, no worries. S'all cool :D
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PS2addictedlioness Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I eat red and white meat without discrimination
And I'm pro-choice.
:la:



-The comment has no point, I just thought I post it for the laughs XD
I DO love the stamp and arguement though-
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Wooo! :la: XD

Haha, thanks so much ^^
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PS2addictedlioness Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Meat is murder!
Tasty, tasty murder... Yummm.

XD Welcome!
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm actually a vegetarian, but I don't care if people eat meat XD
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PS2addictedlioness Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Eh, we're omnivores for a reason, but we're not so naturally eating meat now, are we? XD
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
We aren't? o_o
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PS2addictedlioness Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I deem it natural to go hunt, but now we practically grow them in our backyards XD
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Haha fair enough :P I thought you meant something like making meat out of animal stem cells
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PlatinaStar Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Pro life is hypocrite in almost every way to me.
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:clap:
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ThatFreakyZephyr Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
meat tastes like crap...
I don't like it...
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Neither do I.
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Annamay168 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012
But I love eating animals! That's not fair! :noes:
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Life isn't fair :P
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Annamay168 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
Oh my God, it's not? Oh noes!
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I know, right? :O
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Yuiru Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
So your only argument is the most obvious and plain form of equivocation fallacy mixed with a straw-man and ad hominem? How pathetic

since its necessary to be vegan if you're pro-life it must work the other way shouldn't it? But would you encourage a vegan to be pro-life?
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
To claim to be "Pro-Life" and eat very dead animals is very hypocritical, don't you think? Animals are just as alive as an Embryo. Many anti-choicers who I meet say that they respect all life, they might as well back up their claim.

I know Pro-Choice Vegans, it's not hypocritical because they made the CHOICE (hence why they are Pro-Choice) to be Vegan.
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Yuiru Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012
How is it hypocritical? Pro-life is advocating the full legal protection of HUMAN embryos and fetuses i.e. humanist. Why is it hypocritical to be pro-life and eat animal products?
Your argument is a straw-man, you are dishonestly misrepresenting your opponents position. Pro-life does not require you to be vegan. Pro-life concerns the human species you are equivocating the the political term to encompass other animals, plants, bacteria, protist, and fungi. In order to equivocate pro-life in such a way, you minus well say people who are pro-choice must be supportive every choice even if it harms other(non-fetus) individuals.

"I know Pro-Choice Vegans, it's not hypocritical because they made the CHOICE"
when did I say it was?
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Wanting to save the life of a non-viable embryo and then eat the flesh of very dead once-viable animals is hypocritical because the animals were killed for the meat. Animals are alive, so are Embryos. If you claim to be Pro-Life, that should be for ALL life. Unless someone is for keeping all life alive, I will continue to call them anti-choice.

You said: "But would you encourage a vegan to be pro-life?" Implying that it's hypocritical to be Vegan and Pro-Choice. What it's not.
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Yuiru Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012
By that logic it is also hypocritical for them to eat plant life as well since you have equivocated the term to apply to all life, simply because it has "life" in it. You've put everyone who is pro-life in a double bind at this point.

Pro-life as well as pro-choice, anti-choice, and anti-life are all just political framing its hypocritical to equivocate pro-life if you won't do the same for the rest. Is some one who is pro-CHOICE a hypocrite if they didn't support someones CHOICE to suicide bomb, mass murder, and sell illegal drugs?
Like you're equivocation for pro-life, some one who is pro-choice should be for ALL choices.

And no I never implied that, I am not one to use fallacious reasoning like you have. Rather I was pointing out the absurdness and double-standardness of your statement, something you appear to be oblivious about.
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It is pretty hypocritical, yes. To claim to be pro-life and kill anything that holds life is hypocritical. Thats why I don't call anyone pro-life.

I don't support a persons choice to suicide bomb/mass murder because that violates other peoples rights to bodily autonomy.
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Yuiru Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012
but again, by how you equivocate, it would be pro-choice not "pro-choice-unless-it-violates-other-peoples-rights-to-bodily-autonomy" its just pro-choice, ALL choices regardless.
And if it takes violating bodily autonomy to be wrong, then is it not wrong if someone kills somebody who is not viable and is dependent upon them?

If you really can't understand the difference from political framing and the literal sense and still continue to use straw man then why don't you just stop using them all together and call it what it is? Pro-choice is just a euphemism for pro-abortion.
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't support ones right to violate someones elses right to bodily autonomy. I don't support murder, rape, slavery or forced gestation.

I still won't call anyone pro-life, because no one is pro-life. It's just a name created by the anti-choice movement to try and make themselves feel better about themselves and to manipulate and guilt trip pregnant women.
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Weresquirrel94 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love your description. :) I'm so using this argument if I ever get to debate with a pro-lifer. :heart:
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yay :D They're very hypocritical if they eat meat or dairy, thats for sure.
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SpeakThroughFingers Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
BUT LYKE, PLANTS ARE LIVING THINGS TOO!

I guess if you're REALLY pro life, all you can do is starve to death.
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OurHandOfSorrow Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yup, exactly!
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steinhakasei Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2012
Even a vegan cannot claim to be pro life, because a plant is still a living organism. :)
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