Around half of anti-choicers I come across are against abortion in all cases/when there's no chance of the fetus surviving/when the only way to save the woman's life is to kill the fetus/when the fetus has died.
I don't understand what is so "pro-life" about wanting to see both woman and fetus die? If there's at least a slim hope for the woman's survival wouldn't it be best to at least save her life? Since when was two deaths better than just one? It doesn't make any sense.
"It's a mothers duty to sacrifice her life for her child!"
No, it's not. Nobody is obliged to give up their life for the sake of someone else, whether it's her child or not. There is nothing noble about sacrificing your own life for the sake of something that would die without your help anyway and leaving your family and friends behind.
"It's all part of Gods plan for them both to die, she will be rewarded in heaven by God and Jesus and all the little Angels and blah blah blah blah!"
Not everybody is Christian, your God means nothing to mine and plenty of other women's lives. I will not, and I repeat NOT die for a fetus just because YOU believe that there is an afterlife. There are tonnes of faiths out there, and not all of them want women to die for a non-viable clump of tissue and cells that's inside of her uterus. I'm not a Christian, I'm a Pagan. I don't believe in your God and I never have done, so why should I die for a cause that I don't believe in?
"Abortion is murder and murder is a sin!"
No, abortion is not murder and it never has been. Did you know that before abortion was made illegal in the 19th century, it was legal up to the 17th week because the 'soul' didn't enter the body till then?
"Thou shalt not kill!!!!!"
Urgh! What is with all the bible mumbo jumbo today? If killing was wrong, we would have all starved to death long ago. We kill thousands of things every single day all of our lives. What it should say is: "Thou shalt not murder!" and abortion is NOT murder.
"No baby deserves the death penalty!"
No woman deserves to die for a non-viable embryo, that's just about as alive as a turnip is. Thing is, when there's no hope of the fetus surviving because of viability and shit like that and the woman was going to die if she continued with the pregnancy, who are YOU to deny her an abortion? What about her "right to life" you always harp on about? Or does that only apply for fetuses?
Anyway, I'm going to stop here because I could go on for hours about the hypocrisy of these morons. If there's anything I left out, please tell me and I'll have a good ramble about it later
Speaking of death penalty, don't many anti-choice bigots actually support death penalty? Something I find hypocritical if they call themselves pro-life.
I debated to you many years on this issue.
I have changed my views since.
Yes, abortion is touchy, but it should still be allowed. I think that people just need to carefully consider each option before going with one of them.. Hell, each have pros and cons.
Adoption will save a life, but who will adopt it? What about all the other unadopted children? This is best done if you really want to let the baby live, but know where it will go. And knowing the family is good, not abusive. Bachground checks can only do so much.
Keeping the baby will let the baby live, but there are a lot of issues. Money is a big one. Teen mothers, for example, often have very little means to take care of children, let alone themselves. A baby is a lot for a growing body, and childbirth can be very detrimental to their body.
These can be best avoided by using birth control and making responsible decisions.
Poor mothers can't supply the children what they need to grow healthy and strong, and end up hurting themselves and their kid. This is best for mothers who already have a good income and established themselves well.
Abortion does eliminate the fetus but can cause a lot of bleeding. To prevent this, it is best done early, before the fetus is viable. Large parts can cause infection and can be harmful. This can be avoided by choosing a good provider. This can be used for harmful pregnancies as well, such as rape, incest, or live saving treatment.
Women have the minds to make good decisions, we do not need anyone telling us what to do as long as we educate ourselves on the decisions. We do not need to use coat hangers, get professional help.
The only problem I will have with abortion is if the kid doesn't have a certain feature such as sex. Sex selective abortion is wrong because its based off of discrimination, not on a legitimate need.
And an abortion is much cheaper than having to feed yourself and a starving person. It's cruel to bring them into a life that will be harmful.
I'm pro informed choice
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I got Kida.
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Hey, I really do not like abortion, but if a kid can;t be raised in hope and be given the love they need, don't have them. There are already so many homeless children out there, how about you give one a home?
Or invest in charities that help children without homes, baby sit, teach a child a new skill. You can still love children and support hem without giving birth haphazardly. If anything, my views comes from science and compassion.
Yes, it is a tiny human, but its cruel to neglect them of a need all because you don't have the resources.
I'd rather be pro-quality-of-life.
I should make that a stamp.
So no, pro-fetus doesn't suit them either.
I like to refer to them as pro-birth-enforcers, or insensitive fucks for short. C:
think dad said we're Pro-choice here
The 12 year old child that's being forced to have a baby she doesn't want!
you probably thought I was actually "pro life" at first, haha.
pro choice forever.
And just to clear it up, FETUSES are not BABIES. You are not "murdering" a living thing if you have an abortion.
(Excuse my cissexism)
It's hard to have an opinion because, on the one hand, it feels like something is being hurt. It may not be a baby yet, but it's human nature to identify with one another. A developing baby only needs to have the word baby in it for some to not want to bring harm to it.
On the other hand, some women really don't deserve it. Birthing a rapist's son/daughter would be awkward if they ever wanted to know who their father was. Or maybe they were forced into it (in a different way that includes rape but a little bit more than that).
I kind of want to ignore it with that slight hovering hand. I'd be pretty pissed if some yo-yo went to get an abortion whenever she got pregnant because she liked having a lot of intercourse but didn't want to try out any protection at all (talk about a waste of money for the abortionist).
The world needs to learn to keep to itself.
Love you my friend.
I support it and respect pro-lifers who say, "I wouldn't, but its your choice."
the world needs to learn to stick out of a woman's business. The abortion should be her decision and her partner and other family if she wants their advise.