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I want proof! by OurHandOfSorrow I want proof! by OurHandOfSorrow
"Your faith is not proof."

Unless you're debating about religion, your faith is proof of nothing.

I debate a fair bit sometimes, and whenever the opposing side uses their religion I want to punch them in the fucking face.

I am not an Atheist, but not everyone follows my faith, not everyone wants to follow my faith. And I respect that, so unless I'm debating about religion: I keep my beliefs AWAY from the debate.

I wish everyone else who I debate with would do the fucking same _
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katrinahood Mar 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, unless I'm actually discussing Christianity, I usually keep that out, especially in two certain topics! (You know what they are, don't you?)
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Huskeygirl3 Feb 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Oh my god yes! It annoys me so much when somebody uses religion in an argument!!
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unless of course the debate is on the religious content itself, which is usually the case c: 
Besides.. That's why it's called faith, we believe wether it is complete proof or not ;w;
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This reminds me of a story when I used to be a christian.I once asked the person teaching us a lesson about god, and I asked him "How can we prove that God exist?" and he told me and I quote "look outside at the trees'.
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LolitheLeopard Nov 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Christian Logic: IS IN DA BIBLE! THE BIBLE SAYS SO! BIBLE GOOD!" :iconderpplz:
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Rhavencroft Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:P You do realize that there actually is a lot of history backed up in the Bible, right?

While it isn't definite proof against everything, especially with someone with the worldview of an athiest, that doesn't mean you dismiss the whole lot as rubbish. There is truth in it; history, factual events...etc. You'd be a fool if you ignore the parts of it that are correct, even if you are not religious.
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You mean that the bible is based on a true story and historical events? For example: That when the Hebrews turned into the Egyptians' slaves, it is based when the Hebrews turned into slaves because they were a small group and they had beliefs that weren't accepted yet.
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LolitheLeopard Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
None of these "Historical events" ever happened according to reputable scholars and historians.
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Rhavencroft Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Somebody didn't really research this topic. :P

www.josh.org/resources/study-r…
www.cbsnews.com/news/scholar-b… (old, but to the best of my knowledge still reliable)
www.newtestamentchurch.org/htm…
www.inplainsite.org/html/bible…
www.everystudent.com/features/…
www.icr.org/biblical-record/
carm.org/non-biblical-accounts…

Of course every single event has not been proven. That doesn't mean that some aspects of it are not accurate. If you have a variety of cultures and religions which hold to similar principles, they must have been based upon truth. You can used a variety of religious texts combined with history and archeology to uncover the past. It's not a matter of religion being real or not-- that is not what we are discussing. If a religious text contains even partial historical accuracy, it is still accuracy, regardless if there is a God or not. :P It's a concept easy to grasp.
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Rhavencroft Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Adorable how you blocked me. :P

This is in reply to the comment below me:

 If you don't take the time to recognize sources and refuse to read something because it has 'God' on the title, then you have no concept of fact or sources, and prove yourself to be quite ignorant.

Behold, sources of the first article.

Donald J. Wiseman and Edwin M. Yamauchi, Archaeology and the Bible, Zondervan Publishing Company, 1979

Josh McDowell, More Evidence That Demands a Verdict, Campus Crusade for Christ, 1975, pp. 17-22, 301-322

Joseph Free, Archaeology and Bible History, rev. ed., Wheaton, Scripture Press, 1969

Clifford Wilson, Rocks, Relics and Biblical Reliability, Grand Rapids, Zondervan, 1977

Clifford Wilson, Ebla Tablets: Secrets of a Forgotten City, San Diego, Master Books (Division CLP), 1979


 I advise you to READ BEFORE YOU TYPE. You failed to read my comment fully, so I don't find you worth arguing with. You haven't really displayed yourself as  capable of debate. I wont respond to anything after this comment-- waste of time. :P

Even the Muslim's book has historic truth in it. So does Egyptian mythology, if you look deep enough.

If a religious text contains even partial historical accuracy, it is still accuracy, regardless if there is a God or not.

If you didn't want a fight, you shouldn't have made a post on the internet. And, you seriously can't recognize the difference between 'fight' and debate? Why are you here again?
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